Have a good vacation. When you return at it all together a 9 909 Main For srhool or typewriter supplies GRINNEll orrlcrsumv GRlNNELL, IOWA Across from the Post Office THE SCARLET AND BLACK December 11, l970 Replies To Freshman, Kintner, And Keepnews Calls Preps’Proposals "Incredible” To the editor: This letter is in response to last week's article by three freshman students concerning the "irrelevance" ofthe Grins nell education. First of all, I fail to see how these students, with theirvast thirteenrweek experience of the collegiate educationalsys- tern, can assume that they have given it a fair trial and found it wanting. The mind- expanding project ofa lé-crer dit independent on death and insanity somehow does not strike me as a viable alter- native to the type of education which Grinnell is offering. Few reasons for the propo- sed radical change are offer- ed. Semantic phrases like "a more accurate representation of society based upon mutual dependency between students" prove little more than thefact that the writers are certainly not hesioant in using their ir- relevant education to get ac- ross a radical point. I see little justification for the pros ject other than an unsupport- ed assumption that “learning “our nmn had yet anothzr outrage in store. The screams had not yet died away when he announced that, yes, he was in tact going to supply some arms to South Africa, would do so, he said, because it was in Eng- land's long»range inferlsf to do so. England: 5.. o a... .. .r what? . . ’V NAIIONAL at. wEw, writs: D-pt. w, 150 s. :5 stun, w. v. more 938 Main 3 LEVELS OF SHOPS ladies and Children’s Wear Home Furnishings - Gilt Ware MAZELTOV SAGA SANTA ClAUS lIVFS! DRUw will become a 24-hour a day process," and an attempt to get academic credit for wast» ing a good deal of tuition “,0, hey. In our society, there are al» ternative directions one can choose for his life to take. One of those is getting an educa- tion by going to a small libero al-arts college. This is the choice these students have made; if it does not fit their plans, then i would suggest that the college environment is not where they belong. At the risk of sounding like a dyed-inrwool conservative, it seems to me that the pre- sent Grinnell education can be a relevant learning experience if the student himself wishes to make it that. These fresh~ men, Iposit, aren't willing to meet it halfway. In fact, they really haven't had time to try it at all. Perhaps the most incredur lous statement of an article filled wlth incredulous state* ments is the following choice quote about the purpose of the College: "it seems more in- terested in keepingitselfalive than providing its students with an education which edu- cates them." It seems to me that if the college were not here a very small amount of education. educating anybody, would indeed take place. The article could perhaps be passed off as a rather incred- ible exercise in naivete and radical idealism. I find, howV ever, that it bothers me a good deal more than that, for i find in it an amazing refusal to be aware of the reality of the world in which we are liv- ing, and the radicalrchange- for - the ~ sake~ of» radical , change syndrome so wpimlof youth movements today. I would have hoped that Grins nell would be free of that. Don Dagenais Describes laughing Jog From Outside: Clever, Amusing, lngenious--Hideous To the editor: Pretty cute that "laughing jag". Clever, snide and cyni- cal as you sat in your ivory tower of Goodnow mockingthe futile scurrying of us inner cents (except for Paul, may he flunk his Fisiks!) Now let me tell you how it felt to be on the receiving end of this clever amusing and ingenious little jag. 2:00 in the morning: Outside the wind booms through naked trees and the first frozen fla- kes come streaming out ofthe dark north. I am awakened by laughter. Not light-hearted or chortling or even guffaws. loewi Replies 0n PF: "Not A Mouthpiece” To the Editor: I would like to take this op. portunity to respond briefly to Mr. Kintner‘s letter of last week. When I spoke in favor of the modified physical edu- cation requirement before the faculty, 1 did so because I feared for thepossible demise of intercollegiateathleticsand campus recreation in the event of P.E. staff cutbacks. lwas later assured that those pro* grams would not suffer were the requirement to be abol- ished, and so changed my poe sition. As we faculty has now done away with the P.E. re— quirement, no harm was done. I at no time stated, as Mr. Kinmer suggests, that “the students were not unfavorable to a F.E. requirement." Wh‘ enever I speak before thefac- ulty, or elsewhere, 1 speak as an elected representative of the student body, but not as a mouthpiece for student opina ion. For anyone to attempt the latter would be pure folly. Andy Loewi S.G.A. President FrohlicheWeinachten "‘ SAGA FRUITCAKE? < for your Christmas Party Lt. DANISH MAID BAKERY 818 Fourth Avenue Psychotic, sick, haunting laughter roaring forth from Goodnow. Confusion, anger, rage, then blessedly it stops as mysterious as it started. Only the wind rattles my win- dow. Solsinkbackintoa warm cocoon of blessful security as thankful for quiet, something which we take so casually for granted. 7 Three o’clock: It starts all over again and goes on and on and on. At first I thought it funny: "Clever, lthought. "I’ll bet the folks pulling all nighters are amused." But it kept on and we watched the futile stormingofGoodnowand the huddled group in the night debating where to go next. Forty five minutes of hideous hilarity, until at last someone, perhaps who went to Vespers one still night, remembered the carillon is playedfrom the organ in Herrick. So silence again. Except for the eternal Iowa wind and the scratching of snow along the road. Anon. Keepnews letter: "Bitter Personal Attack On labowitz’ To the editor: Peter Keepnews signed his letter last week "in the spirit of good, clean, healthy enter tainment." Unfortunately, he does not seem to set the same standards for his entertainr ment as forhisargumentation, for the letter was little more than a bitter personal attack on LC. Labowitz. ler. Keeps news is truly interested in responding to criticism, as he says he is, and if he plans to answer the numerous come plaints about his committe this year in the same way he answered those of J.C. last week, he has set for himself an ambitious task. For he will have to make as many replies as there are critics, answer ing each according to his per- sonality, or style, or idiosynr crasies. Yours in the interest of hon— est, substantive, rational dis cussion. Shelley Floyd Small/’4, W 7 from the Made/mick .‘73eautg, Sudan HEADQUARTERS FOR YOUR BEAUTY NEEDS 1005 Broad 236-3069