Friday. April to. mo Religion Discussion Plagued By Failure in Definition ByJaiietsinith The Board of Religion this week brought to the campus tliree seminarians, holding radically different theological views, Sunday, April 5 the topic of discussion was “theology and the Community". Allan Wallerstadt, the moderator, valiently attempted to suggest the necessity for a working definition of community. The issue was never resolved and plagued the sessions (attended by less than 30 students) both evenings Each participant presented a short talk on their personal religious views and relations to their community. James Moore of Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, Deeriield, lliinois, sup- ported the “classical protestant orthodoxy, preached in the 19th century evangelical revivals”, feeling confident that his con- viction spoke for his school, a tight-knit community. He was especially concerned about the alienation of today‘s youth and saw a need for a new faith, the faith “[0qu by Luther." He maintained “For modern man attempting to remake himself and his world, the Christian answer holds great promise: when you cannot overcome your condition, God can." Ted Means of United-Tiler ologicai Seminary of the Twin Cities stressed the diversity of views held at United and 8m- phasized the tenacity of his own position. Presently, he was questioning the G. o. F. values he grew up with and reinforced by his near “monastic” un- dergraduate years at Cornell College, He does not accept the divmity of Christ but considered him a model after which to pattern his life, a statement' which caused several to question his “Christianity," Monday evening the program was entitled ”Theology and College”, All in some way ad— vocated structural changes within the university and saw major faults in .the Grinnell community. Jim suggested the college provide students with “defined local centers of learning among which they must choose and arrange their experiences”. These would be “nan-fraternities and neo-sororities 7 each having its guiding philosophy, its curriculum, and its student7 faculty steering committee." Ted delineated the characteristics of a community, emphasizing ops enness and trust and formulation of decisions by the community as a whole. Grinnell is not a come munity in that itis a hierarchical structure, and doesn’t allow adequate individual freedom. Stephen Mallingcr of Hebrew Union Collegertlewish institute of Religionflincinnatl, Ohio, defined his community as that of all LEO’S STANDARD CAR STARTS TUNE-UP Ir LUBRICATION Jews, stressing the impossibility of losing one's Jewishness. “Once a Jew, always a Jew", if only hy Virtue of circumcision. He‘ acknowledged that it is a little more difficult to join the Jewish community, for a convert must be accepted by the entire com- munity. ' Well, the theologians got down off their pedestal and the discussion rapidly degenerated into a bull session. Personal gripes and dissatisfactions about the educational processes and Grinnell community were aired, The words God and' theology disappeared for the rest of the evening. The program’s purposes may have been accomplished by exposing the seminarians to Grinnell College and the Grin- iiellians to students with a theological background, through individual meetings, Theology, however. was not examined during the panels. One par- ticipant evaluated the panels as "abortions, theologically speaking." I am inclined to agree. ) Letters Continued from page 2 And Leggett's idea that . .the committee’s offer to Wilhelm did not involve censorship since the committee was publisher, and a “publisher cannot censor his own material" is a typical of Leggett's doublertalk northink attitude toward students and young people in general. Back when censored, I tried to deal with the situation with reason and an appeal to legal andethical notions of what is right That all failed if the same situation occurred now, lwould probably use other methods of dealing with it. Like many young people in Amerika, I’m getting pretty mad. Like Johnny Cash‘s song about “What is Right," the Judge looked down at the long-haired youth and didn't hear a word he said. We’ve had enough of this crap. lieiii-y Williclin To the editors of the Scarlet and Black: Regardless of the merits of giving Herbie Hancock an honorary degree tronn Grinnell, the 5&8 editors should do a bit more research and get the true facts before they begin to editoi‘ialize. First, The Concerned Black Students did not invite Mr, BANG'S Anniversary SALE! 0 All Weather Coats 0 Spring Shifts I Long-Sleeved T-Sllirts * Plus Yellow Tag Sale SALE! at Bang’s the book was SCARLET AN D BLACK Hancock here to participate in the Black Martyrs' mam Concerts Committee and the Social Coordinating Committee, along with the AfrorAmeriCan Cultural Affairs Committee in- vited Mr. Hancock. it was pure co-incidencc that he came on April ith, Black Martyrs' Day. He did himself express an inn tel‘est in talking with Black students, having been a Black student at Grinnell, alter having accepted the engagement at Gi'innell. Second, The Concerned Black Students did not propose to anyone that Mr, Hancock receive an honorary degree. So whatever “minority” you feel the laculty is pandering to, it is not the Concerned Black Students as you haveimplicd. 'l'lu: Klitoko of the Concerned Black Students Grchoggs Frank’l‘homas Merryll Penson DcarSlr: Your last issue’s editorial on Milovan Djilas aborted visit here was surely one of your silliest emotional outbursts, unless, of course, it was a cynical attempt to influence logically and politically underdeveloped younger students with specious politicalargument. The demand that liberals and radical leftists balance (and weaken) their criticisms of American society and foreign policy with devotion of equal time to ritualistic denunciation of Communist governments abroad is 'a hoary old reactionary campaign tactic. How many reactionaries devote equal time to denouncing rightist military coups abroad, genocide in In- donesia, racism in South Africa and Rhodesia, and the much worse and more consistent violations oihuman rights among our policerstate allies in general? The typical reactionary cons ccpt oi civics seems to he that people should be more concerned with tyranny in Siberia, sup- pression of religion in Mongolia, or frightening quotations (often piionyt from Lenin or Mao than with problems of American foreign or domestic policy that our right to vote (hopefully at eighteen) and payment of taxes should logically make more vital tous. Sincerely, 17.5. Ln Ct'oix For School or Typewriter Supplies Grinnell Office Supply GIINNILL IOWA luvs: lrolll ll»- Past Or’r’iu [Page Five Tuesday Night allhe Movies: The 'Old Senaie' Bows Out By TOM GREENFIELD I took on this column originally because i have nothing to do on Tuesday nigiits. However, this past week presented me with a crisis This week's meeting 7 the last meeting of the old Senate 7 fell on the same night as the academy award presentations It just wouldn'tseem like April if i didn‘t turn on a tube and hear John Wayne say “I’m John Wayne. I work with my clothes on.“ Dismayed at the possibility of missing one of my top favorite spring rituals, i searched the campus for a solution. My dilemma was finally solved by “Big Bertha," Bob Euygenliausen’s 24 ounce, 2 inch transistorized television set. i marched into the Senate meeting with Bertha at my side. Setting myself up behind the Senate table, 1 cast one eye to the Senate and one eye to the stars. My report of the evenings’ observations follows, 9:30. Phil Mears, a spokesman for the student power steering committee, moves ,to open up a general assembly of all present to discuss the ramifications of the committee‘s revolutionary :eport, Glen Campbell sings the theme song to “True Grit." 9:45, Students discuss the relative merits of the per formances of the present Educational Policy Committee, Johnnie Green’s orchestra plays an exerpt from the score oi “The Sterile Cuckoo." « lu:litt, Mickey Schaalman says “You have to have a body with the institutional principle." Racqucl Weleh presents the oscar for visual effects to “Marrooned,” 10:15, Questions on the value of the whole effort are raised Bruce Nissen explains some of the complexities of the steering committee's report to skeptical and confused students. “in the Year of the Pig” loses its oscar JD'S dismount ”1 Vi Mall. Mon. . su. 5 to lo pm. Sundry—Noon to to pin. nomination to “Love of Life." lll::i0. Julie Szabo reads the text of somebody’s friendly amendment to something. “Hello Dolly” wins for best achievement insound. 10:45, Problems arise as students seek to articulate the faculty position on a few technical points. Mr. Gregory Guroll' ihistoryt rises to clarify the faculty philosophy. John Wayne wins best actor award. ”:00, Students are having trouble understanding much of the vague wording in the Steering Committee document. Phil Mears and Mickey Schaalman are kept busy clarifying the ‘muny semantic questions of their paper. ”Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" wins for best writing. ll:ls,After onehourand fortyr ive minutes of debate, Andy newi pressures the group for an tnd to the discussion. George Iessel receives a citation for humanitarianaction. ll..l|, Johanna Ward laments thathersenatorialcampaignwas longer than her term in office. Goldie Hawn wins an oscar for bestsupportingactress. lists, Jon Stein reports on the progress of the committee to determine new closing hours for he Forum, Jon announces that students “sat-in" at the Forum until «i AM. Jon explained that :his “sit-in” was precipitated by M , Hawk‘s longtime unr wi ngness to budge on the 12- 12:30 closing times. Apparently several appeals to Mrs. i-iawk have yielded no progress at all in the Forum policy. 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