Friday, September I9. I?” SCARLET AND BLACK Page Thru ) Faculty (Continued from Page ,1) ally—speaking members had al- ready been supported by a large portion oi the iaculty. The proposed student voting privilege also introduced the problem at a veto at u go-ahead trom a body which had not here- toiore entered into the picture—~ the Board of Trustees. Dean Joseph F. Wall commented, “it's my own interpretation that if students were simply allowed to attend, it would not require the approval 02' the trustees." it the proposed voting privi. lege ior lo stride ts is approved by the iaculty, its ’ ial approval would necessitate major changes in the college b laws. and the only body authorized to amend the bylaws is the Board of Trus~ tests This consideration entered in- to the faculty’s discussion oi the Bells committee recommenda- tions, and, accortliog to Wall, some professors thought the trustees would reject the matter out-Oi-tlllid, if the vote at a subsequeth meellzlg favors student voting participation, the ‘ pendant” ro‘twé'iiZRiW earliest possible date for the implementation or the right would probably be at the end of the first semester, since it would wait upon the action or the trus- tees, whose next meeting is not until mid-Novemberi Asst, Proiessor John H. Wor- iey (philosophy). the secretory oi the faculty, estimates that taculty discussion iollowing Betts’ presentation lasted an hour, or tor the greater part or the ‘meeting. in the debate, sev- e ral conilicting viewpoints clashed, according to Worley, and the wording oi the proposal was argued back and iorth. One outstanding objection, voiced later in an interview with Prolessor John R. Kleinschmidt, chairman oi the iaculty, is that to allow student mg would he tantamount to c nging the conceptitrom a faculty meeting to a community meeting. “In the View 0i some," Klein- scltmidt Said, “a public meeting does not provide the kind or frce< (km to not only so, what i want now , but to consider the matter now and later, to change my mind, to not gec prematurely ovelxcommitted." Wall commented that another See Our Lures! Style: In Slacks. Blouses, Skirts & Jackets FOR MEN'S _ See Our Latest Styles In objection voiced by some ia- cuity members was that the two parts—faculty and students #maklng up the “new” iaculty meetings might be accused or tokemsm, since the ratio of stu- dents to lacuity would be 1 to 12. They would also, he said, he on a very ditterent touting, The elected students would be re presentatives # charged repre- sentatives # in an otherwise democratic body made up or all iaculiy iroin Instructors to Pro- tessot's. The Bells committee stood on the other Side, firmly behind the idea ol students expressing student viewpoints in a body di— rectly concerned with their courses and daily routines. On the committee, besides Belts, are Professor Kenneth A, Chris- tianson (Bio.),'Associate Pro— fessor Eugene A, Harman (Mathematics), Associate Pm< lessor Karl DeLorig (Bio,), and Asst. Protessot‘ Neal A. Milner (Political Science). in the course oi the debate, an amendment came up to de- lete the se ion on voting, and both the original motion and the amendment were totally tabled following a motion by win Klein- schmidt; the debate was terminated. In an interview with an 5&3 reporter on Tuesday, Klein- schmidt responded to questions about students in iaculty meet- ings. One question was what kinds of restrictions he sees as necessary (or attendance. His answer: ”Suppose someone, some pro- iessor proposes a plan which is popular, catches on ~ it gets out as an idea — an outside group runs with that ball, and expecta- tions arise among the student: mat certain things are going to happen. 1! it's not. approved in the long run, there will he re- sentment, protest, a feeling or ‘why not?’. At best, that kind or protest creates a divisiveness that is not necessary," Klein- schmidt also commented upon an incident at Harvard Univer- sity several years ago when the lacuity there passed a rule against publicizing any decision until it was acted upon. “I don‘t advocate this," Klein- schmidt said, “but. I can see a certain sense in reducing pre- mature expectations and reac- tions to things that have not been worked out iully.” Does Kleinschmidt see any parallels between the current controversy at Grinnell and those occurring at other schools? He told the 5&3: “There has been a great deal OT discussion and action in col- leges and universities here and in Canada, for example, to pro« vide mechanisms such as stu- dents on the boards of trustees. it may be. on both sides, some- thing or riding a popular idea, a lad. . , .Although i think the iaculty here could live with stu- dents attending its meetings. I personally can't get my mind around to the proposal or a student vote. This makes it an entirely different ball-game." Dean Wall expects that this student, attendance proposal might come up tor raculty dis- cussion several times before it is ultimately acted upon. He said, ”It’s all up in the air now, because the (acuity tabled it — it will no doubt come up at the October 6 meeting (the next one)." Slacks, Shirts, Shoes & Jackets QQhB fiction and Bouncy Alvin’s Discount l’ snitch hints FtltNAllY’S SUPER Vhid Open Every Night Till 9 At Low Low (2&5 GQl. STAMPS On Wednesdays WE ACCEPT VOUCHERS Edd counts Ohm: l02'l Merlin Free, Free, Free Digger Dinner Is Free, Free, Free By a Start Writer The first Digger Dinner of the year will be celebrated at Con- fetence House tomorrow night at 6:00 pm. in keeping with their “life» -FREEl l l” philD~ sophy, the Diggers will provide FREE homebrew stew, home- baked bread, and wine, as well as groovy company and music. (It’s also a chance to get at:- quaintcd with the new campus dogs.) 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