SCARLET AND BLACK Moves Made Toward Understanding oy KATHY BULL Things with town~coliege communica- non are chugging right along. On May 1 some students and the people of the Episcopal Church discussed the Viet- nam war and the changing policies of the US. They agreed that students and other citizens are responsible ior bring- ing their opinions to the attention of pol- icy makers. Father TarlCreti said that most oi the people that attended felt it was an anceuragingly healthy and help- ful discussion and hope that there wlll be more of them. Henry Scheif, Bill Thomas, Mike Siegel, Rob Harlan. Mike Drayton, Dave llnlmans and Phil Saslch talked with about 25 members of the First Baptist Church on May 4. They began by read- ing a copy oi Ted Gilck's letter to his drait board stating why he is resisting the draft. After this, they hmke up into groups of eight or nine, Henry Scheil commented, “it was quite good. in gen- oral, they seemed to think more of col- lege students and understand better why Gllck did it." Some of the topics that were talked about in his group were town-college relations, race, the war, and resisting. Another group dis- cussed the power of corporations and reasons why there are some people who reel so much more strongly about the war than others and why people ieel alienated irom government organiza- tions. Bill Thomas, who was a member of this group, felt that they were in basic agreement about the War but felt varying degrees of urgency. Many people thought that Nixon could still do something about it and that the talks in Paris are not succeeding because the North Vietnamese are obstructing them. Also on May 4, Tom Mill, Tony No- yak, Bill Parks, Carol Patterson, Nick Russo, Bruce Armstrong and Captain Perdum discussed the Vietnam war, dissent and iorelgn policy with about 10 members oi the Presbyterian Church. Afterwards. Novak commented that although he would love to be an optimist and think that We will get tD< geiher, he believes that the best way to maintain sanity is to isolate our- selves. improve our self-determination and make ourselves tree. Russo said that he realized that a compromise was necessary to get the resolution to the City Council. He feels it is necessary to simply agree that the war is unjust and not demand agreement on the proce- dures ior ending it. Mark Graeser, Bruce Balls, Jared VanWagenen and Dr. Leggett talked with the Chamber of Commerce recent- ly. Dr. Leggett, a member of the Cham- ber of Commerce. introduced the stub dents and spoke about the need for com- munication. The board members and the students briefly discussed the war and action that could be taken in the town. At the Chamber oi Commerce meeting last Wednesday they were go- ing to consider whether they wanted to talk further with students. The high school student body presi- dcnt, Doug Kochneli, and some or his friends and a group or college students met a few weeks ago and decided on a number or things they could do in the high school about the war in Vietnam. Andy Loewl, who talked with Kochneff, has been trying to contact Kochneii to find out what, ii anything, has been done; but he has been unable to reach him. Lynn Aldrich, Andy Loewl, Peter Keep. news, David Feldman and Lee Shamr berg are on a committee that will meet with Miss Georgia Dental the first week oi school next year to establish a defi- nite policy about high school attendance at college events. Loewi says that some college students have been upset by the idea or high school students attending events that they (college students) paid lor. s—-———————————‘——fi Tinker Takes Comps To Task By KATHY KARLSON No one questions the fact that the comprehensive examinations at Grin- nell vary trom department to depan~ ment in difficulty and in importance. About three weeks ago, senior Bonnie Tinker decided that she could not take an examination she felt to be a mean- ingless test of her education. She dis- tributed a statement to seniors. calling tor a meeting to discuss the justice at comprehensive examinations. A few peo- ple showed up, but Miss Tinker was the only senior who decided to refuse to take the examination. On April 26, she wrote 1 statement, “Academic Ritual -— A comprehensive Examination," during the time allotted for her written examination which ques- tioned the legitimacy oi judging a tour year educational experience in two and a half hours, During the time designated for her oral comprehensive, she contin- ued discussion of this statement, insist- ing at that time that “I would not answer questions that were part of an oral examination, but that I would be happy to talk to them about my posi- tlcns on comps, or anything else they cared to discuss as long as it was clear that I was not taking an examination." Unofficially notified that she had flunked her examinations, Miss Tinker then petitioned the Committee on Aca- demic Standing requesting that the re- quirement he waived for the class of 1969. The committee unanimously rec- ommended that the requirement not be waived, and on May 1, the Executive Council unanimously declined to waive the requirement. Miss Tinker than roe ‘uuted that the Executive Council hoax her arguments against the examination. she will meet with a sub-committee of the Executive Council on Friday, May 16. Miss Tinker insists that the examina< tion is meaningless because it varies ircm department to department, and that it is destructive to the educational process because “they make an individ- ual dependent upon extemal judgments tor a good sell—Concept, thereby threat- ening his uniqueness." “Colleges have caught themselves be- tween two poles,” she said. “On the one hand, they want to say that edu- cation is indeed more than, the storage vi a given body oi information. on the other hand, they want to continue to apply quantitative measures which can be transcribed into a qualitative judg. men ." Miss Tinker will request an individual waiver from the requirement or will re. quest that her letter written during the time allotted for comm be counted as a comprehensive examination. m ) Existence (Continued from Page 2) Man ha: no vested right to interfere wtth ecology." The other two candidates were more lucclnct in their answers. One said, “I try harder.” The other answered, “I am instilled by your existence.‘ A few other faculty members retum- ed the test unanswered, but ”wrote their own" by saying, “It was stupid," and “I would have filled it out if I had had the time." The Executive Council will decide whether or not to accept these examinations. THE FLAG POLE was the center at lemonade sales, rrldry’ May it 1m, Photo by Susan Kami- proceeds from which were donated to the Playboy demonstrators‘ legal fluid. The demonstrators aro slill lacking 5515 at the necessary $1200 ior legal services. “Grinnell 8" Trial Set The date of May 26 has been set [or the trial of eight Grinnell students who allegedly dlsrobed during a Feb. 5 Gates Lounge lecture by a representative or Playboy magazine, The students, who are charged with “indecent exposure," will appear in Poweshiek County Dis- trict Court in Montezuma. Charges against a ninth student were dropped at a preliminary hearing in Grinnell on March 26. Indecent exposure is an indictable misdemeanor under iowa law carrying a penalty of sbt months’ imprisonment or a $200 fine. College Advertises Anti-War Statement By SOL BABEUF Last Thursday, more than 800 student! and faculty sponsored and endorsed I statement appearing in the Grinncll Herald-Register. The ad (approximate cost—$140.00), was the product oi oi pho. nomenon rm to this campus: a joint student - ioculty - administration cooper- ative effort. The statement, which con- damned the war in Vietnam as neither “necessary nor just," and called on President Nixon to terminate this coun- try’s involvement in SE. Asia "at quickly as possible," was signed and paid for by almost 98% of tho iacully, including Glen Leggett and Jamel Stauss. The idea for the ad grew out of a dis< cussion between Leggett and about twenty students on the day oi th flan ADDRESS HERE: PTERO Probe Resumes a Agents from the Iowa Attorney Gen. , elal 5 Office were in Grinnell again last 1 week to further investigate the activities ‘ oi Pterndactyl, Gtinl‘lell’s underground newspaper whose copy and photographs were illegally seized by state agents at a printing shop last March and were recently returned to the owners after a court injunction was issued. - Assistant Attorney General Douglafl: . Carlson and other agents visited with at least nine Grinnell high school stu- dents and their parents to gather lnior- mailon about how Pterodactyl is distrib- i uted to high School youth! Six of the students questioned by the agents are staii members for The Beam, the high school underground paper. One at the students questioned last week sold that the agents were also try- ing to determine if there was “a link" between the two underground papers. - He also said that alter being interview-“9 ed, the students were asked by (hi agents to sign written statements based on what they had told the agents. -, The confiscated issue of Ptemdacrfi in currently being printed our of stat. and should be ready for distribution early next week, according to mem- bers of the paper's stall, 22:: - 3 “incident," during which Leggett wnl asked to take a stand ml the war (a lo Calvin Plimpton). That evening, after the liberation or the Forum, Leggelt lug formed certain students that he would > be willing to sign, as an individual, a stetament opposing the war. The noun] bunch of student and faculty busybodiel then busled themselves with writing (in i statement and procuring signatures.