Knowlton was seen with the girl who is now home on medi- cal leave in the Forum on the night of November 12. Both he nnd the girl were slightly drunk at the time and there was some trouble with Forum officials but they were not asked to leave the Forum as has been rumored. That night Knowlton and the girl went to the of! campus apartment on Sixth Avenue where both Knowlton and Han- enberg live. Michele Anderson, bette r known on campus as “Mimi," was also spending the night at the apartment. Kenneth Adel. man, a senior who until very recently dated the girl who was with Knowlton, became aware that she was at the apart- ment, and Bi about 2:30 arm. Sunday morning went over to EETING oi Sim Knni. Karen Lau— , Bob Johntlen. Bond Faulwell and the idea of the ' planning (allowed lhir meeting be- in" originated. the apartment with a iriend or his, Nordahl Brue, senior, in an attempt to get the girl to re— turn to her dorm. The girl did not want to leave and a heated discussion followed between her and Adelman. She told the 5&3 that some physical force was used on her by Adelman in the attempt to make her leave the apartment. She said she might have agreed to return to her dorm ii Adelman had “not been so pushy” and were it not tor her tear or being caught trying to enter the dorm through a Window. She said that Knowlton did not try to make her stay; he leit the decision up to her. During the disturbance Ander- son was seen by both Erue and Adeiman, although Adelman told the 5&3 he did not know who she was or that she was even a student at Grinnell. He said that he was simply not concerned with the then uniden- tified girl. Brue, who did know Anderson, said that he did not lnior—m Adelinan at her identity until Monday morning. Adelman told the 5&3 that he had been concerned about the welfare of his former girlfriend recently because she was be- having in a way much different than she usually does. Adelman had Called the girl's father sev- eral times that weekend in an attempt to get him to do some- thing to help. Her father asked her sister. it student in another Midwest college, to come to Grinnell to vi 't the girl. The sister came during the week- end and checked on the girl but returned to college Sunday. Adelman, still concerned about the tact that nothing was be- ing done to help the girl, talked to Henrerork Steiner, English, Monday in the early afternoon. Steiner, a personal iriend oi Adelman’s, told the 5&3 he thought something should be done and he went to see Dean of Women Alice Law that after- noon. Steiner told the 5&3 that Adelmsn had mentioned the presence of “another gir" but that he did not know whether she was a town girl or a stu- dent. Steiner said he passed this information on to Dean Low and Dean ot Men S. Eugene Thomp- son. Steiner said the other two people (l-lanenberg and Ander- son) were Significant to Adel» man because they would do nothing to help. Adelman told the 5&3 that he “was not and is not now” concerned about Hanenberg and Anderson. When Steiner was asked by the 5&3 ii he thought the then unknown girl would be in trouble if she was iound out he said, "I assumed that it she was a student and they did find out there would be trouble —- this was only a passing consid« eralibn on my part. it you get caught you get caught." Steiner went on to say, "The issue is not whether students can experiment with sex — only how they go about it. For all practical purposes their crime (reierrlng to l-lsnenberg and Anderson) was getting caught. 1 think' for purposes at rationale, in tern-lab! the committee de- cision, their crime was that they did not take some meas- ures to help these people (re- ierring tn Adelman and the girl). I don't think the commit- tee was upholding a moral structure. 1 think they were re- moving {rcm campus people who are not contributing to the campus or who are not benefit- ing from the campus." Steiner explained. “I haven’t the slightest idea if suspension will do these individuals any good H only time will tell. i don't think the loss of these two people (Hanenberg and An- derson) will do the college any ham.” He added, “The major con- sequence, ! suppose, [mm the committee’s point at view, is that the college is willing and able to maintain the integrity of its rule structure. The col- lege is not in u position to provide an enviromnent that gets in the way of its primary function, education. Unlimit- ed visitation, visitation irom 1:00 A.M. 3:00 A.M., coedu- cational llvmg arrangements, are not in the best interests of education. The college is de- vised as primarily an institu- tion of education — not learn- ing how in live. i think we can provide boys and girls with better ways of learning about each other, but not by letting them play house." When asked it he would turn other violations in to the deans, Steiner Said, “If I {eel that a person is doing himselt dam- age, others damage, or the col lege damage. I will report him." The Stu! has deiinite knowledge that Steiner is personally aware of at least three other visita- tions and/or hours violations that took place recently. Early this week Steiner was invited to explain his part in the case to the members of James Hall. Some of the girls present expressed tear or talkin to a laculty member or admi stra- tor in a supposed “counselling situation” about another student in trouble, even if the student is "obviously psychotic," w h e n there are other people involved that may become implicated. The students said the chance of suspension for innocent bystand- ers is too much of a price to pay- ,Atter the meeting at James and atter a talk Tuesday or this week with Knowlton and CoiHP President Robert Foote about Knowlton's part or guilt in the case, Steiner told the 5&1? Wednesday morning, “l am now willing to concede that Frank (Knowlton) did not know ~ (the girl now on medical leave) was sick.” He went on to say, “I still find this incomprehensible that the Committee would sus- pend lhese students tor mere- ly breaking the visitation rule. I don’t really think I am ac- cusing the Deans; i don’t know What other evidence was involved.“ At this interview Steiner told the 5&3, “The Deans knew there was someone else there because of my advice." Steiner added. “i am very worried about the effect at this on coun» seling and advising. How can i ever again go to the Dean's oi— iice on rule violations — if someone else innocent is in» Volved." 311v: Kim When asked about the sus- pension ni Hanenherg and An- derson Steiner said, “This is a price that I‘m still willing to pay to get help for — (the girl). But this is an excessive price to pay in my opinion. The price is damn, damn, high.” The girl on “medical leave” was taken out of class Monday by Dean Low and Dean Thomp- son and taken to a hospital in Newton for “observation.” Her father later came and took her home. At this point it is thought that Dean Thompson did not know of the identity Elf Ander- son, hut there has been specu~ lation that Dean Low found out while taking the girl to New- ton. The 5&3 has not yet been able to verify this. Hanenberg was called in to talk with Dean Thompson Tues- day and according to Hanen- berg Thompson said, “i sup< pose you know about this mess. When Nord and Ken came over they iound Mimi (Michele) An- derson in the apartment. is this true?" Hanenberg said he ad- mitted it then. Hanenberg told the 5&3 that Thompson said he would have to Friday, November 25, “756 c of HP PRESIDENT noasar FOOTE in . last minute distortion with 56A President 5m. Kent beiore Kent gave his Wednesday night Ipeech in ARH about impend- ing 56A action mulling iron in. xuxpensicns. tollow through on the case be. cause “too many people already know about it.” There is much speculation that Thompson was bluiiing lianenberg in claiming to know the girl was Anderson. it has been pointed out that be- cause they had been dating tor so long it would not be Very dif- ticult to suspect that it Hanen- berg had a girl in the apart- ment it would have been Ander- son. Gordy MacAlplne, who lives with Hanenberg and Knowlton, Said Thompson Called him in at about 1:30 PM. Tuesday and asked him a lot of “ambiguous” questions “as if Thompson didn’t know anything about it." MacAlpine said that Thompson didn't ask him anything spe- ciiic, “He just let me talk." When asked by the 58:3 about Hanenberg and Anderson, Mac- Alpine said, “[ condone eliery- thing they have done, because it has been done in such a way that It is not degrading to them or to the caliber ol Grinnell College students." He added, “1 think the pen- alty in this case was much Ion severe. They are good stuv dents, they enjoy studying. they have inquiring minds and they are serious people. i don’t see any of them as be- ing immature or escapist.” The 5&3 has become aware that Anderson's identity was known to a number of people on campus by Monday night. Han- enberg and Knowlton went to talk to Adelman in his room in Cowles Monday evening. Dllr< ing the conversation that fol~ lowed the name ‘Mimi” was overheard by a member or Cowles, but he told the 5&3 that he "didn't tell anyone else." Hanenberg later told the 5&3 that Adelman “promised sever al times that he wouldn’t re- port us." The 5&3 has been able to find no evidence that Adelman did not keep this promise, Nord Brue, who knew Anderson’s identity all along. told the 5&3, “i think (the name “Mimi") could have come out in Dibble. Cowles or in Mimi’s hall (Cleveland).” The 5&3 has been aware of a rumor that An- dersorl's identity “came through a faculty member through a student." The Son attempted to talk with the Deans indiVldually about the case, and Dean Rich- ard Winters and Dean Thompr son, acting as spokesman tor the Deans, reinsed to meet with the 5&3 unless they Could all be present at the same time. The 5&9 had individual appointo ments with Winters, Thompson and Low, which they cancelled when they became aware or the topic or discussion. As oi press time the deans have not agreed to talk individually with the 5&3 about their participation in the case. in a 5&3 interview with the three suspended students last Sunday, Anderson told the sap (concerning her appearance be fore the committee) “I was coin- pletely open with the faculty and deans, like you are in the student courts, and i think this was a mistake." iianenberg said “The rule is obviously intended to limit pie- marltal intercourse". He added "it is very hard to feel guilty about violating a cultural lag.” Anderson commented “Dean Low wants us to go back and change our morals to in the rules.” l-lanenberg was to have played Mozart's Clarinet Concerto solo in the orchestra concert tomor- row night. As the situation stands he will not be permitted to do so and because of this two members of the orchestra have relused to periorm. Denis tie Coleau, conductor oi the ore chestra and chairman pt the Faculty Committee on Student Affairs, said he would not bring anyone else in to replace Han- enberg, but the concert will take place as planned. Another appeal will he made by the students Saturday to President Glenn Leggett, who has been out of town during the past week. Both Hanenbcrg’s and Knowlmn’s fathers are in Grinnell and will appear at the appeal hearing. As the sea went to press at 4:00 PM. to day the students' fathers were not available for Commen ~ ROBERT FOOTE rigninp his own “apprehension" siler horn in ester Hall.